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1993 Olds Cutlass Supreme 3100 W/ 4t60e Fwd Automatic, Central U.S.
02-20-2011, 02:01 AM
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1993 Olds Cutlass Supreme 3100 W/ 4t60e Fwd Automatic, Central U.S.
I have a 93' Olds Cutlass Supreme With the 3100 Motor, and the 4t60e Fwd automatic Transmission. I pulled my tranny out last Oct.2010, just finished rebuilding it and reinstalling it into the car, and I can't seem to find (if I had one at all) my kickdown / Throttle cable, or ( if there was) a place it should go on my tranny. Can anybody help me?
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02-20-2011, 11:45 AM
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RE: 1993 Olds Cutlass Supreme 3100 W/ 4t60e Fwd Automatic, Central U.S.
It's been a l-o-n-g time since I've worked on one of these so I'll just do the best I can from memory. First thing is if it is a 4T60E, the "E" is for "Electronic," and it shouldn't have a TV cable. Being it's a 93 I'm thinking that it is just a 4T60 and it should have one. So, assuming that it does, the only way I can think to explain this would be from under the car, looking up. You would need to be back by the firewall looking out toward the front bumper. As you look up you should be able to see the dip stick tube. Just to the left of it, going straight down is a hole where the cable goes. One tiny bolt holds the plastic housing down. You likely won't be able to see the hole for the cable or the bolt hole without a mirror. The cable usually gets pushed out of the way during R&R. Some guys just unhook the top and leave the cable attached to the transmission on removal. Then it gets removed and tossed off to the side during rebuild.

I hope that helps. Please let us know what you find.
Thanks, Garner

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02-20-2011, 01:30 PM
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RE: 1993 Olds Cutlass Supreme 3100 W/ 4t60e Fwd Automatic, Central U.S.
The flip side of what Garner said is if it happens to be an electronic trany there's a large round plug with a dozen (or so) wires that goes into the top of the lip area on the side away from the shift linkage. There may still be a plug / switch assembly at the linkage, I don't recall. in that vintage there could also be a speed sensor plug on the dif housing or it may still be a speedo cable so don't confuse them when we are taking about a plug that controls the valve body.

At any rate, if this one has the large / round plug then there is no kick down cable, even though there may be a spot for it up on the throttle body on the other end. They used a similar bracket and throttle body for many years so it's just a left over of sorts.
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02-20-2011, 02:41 PM (This post was last modified: 02-20-2011 02:44 PM by JerryShirk.)
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RE: 1993 Olds Cutlass Supreme 3100 W/ 4t60e Fwd Automatic, Central U.S.
(02-20-2011 11:45 AM)Garner Wrote:  It's been a l-o-n-g time since I've worked on one of these so I'll just do the best I can from memory. First thing is if it is a 4T60E, the "E" is for "Electronic," and it shouldn't have a TV cable. Being it's a 93 I'm thinking that it is just a 4T60 and it should have one. So, assuming that it does, the only way I can think to explain this would be from under the car, looking up. You would need to be back by the firewall looking out toward the front bumper. As you look up you should be able to see the dip stick tube. Just to the left of it, going straight down is a hole where the cable goes. One tiny bolt holds the plastic housing down. You likely won't be able to see the hole for the cable or the bolt hole without a mirror. The cable usually gets pushed out of the way during R&R. Some guys just unhook the top and leave the cable attached to the transmission on removal. Then it gets removed and tossed off to the side during rebuild.

I hope that helps. Please let us know what you find.
Thanks, Garner

(02-20-2011 02:41 PM)JerryShirk Wrote:  
(02-20-2011 11:45 AM)Garner Wrote:  It's been a l-o-n-g time since I've worked on one of these so I'll just do the best I can from memory. First thing is if it is a 4T60E, the "E" is for "Electronic," and it shouldn't have a TV cable. Being it's a 93 I'm thinking that it is just a 4T60 and it should have one. So, assuming that it does, the only way I can think to explain this would be from under the car, looking up. You would need to be back by the firewall looking out toward the front bumper. As you look up you should be able to see the dip stick tube. Just to the left of it, going straight down is a hole where the cable goes. One tiny bolt holds the plastic housing down. You likely won't be able to see the hole for the cable or the bolt hole without a mirror. The cable usually gets pushed out of the way during R&R. Some guys just unhook the top and leave the cable attached to the transmission on removal. Then it gets removed and tossed off to the side during rebuild.

I hope that helps. Please let us know what you find.
Thanks, Garner

Thank you, I looked and found no hole in that are but as I was also told above there was the electronic plug in the housing just under the breather filter housing, thank you both ever so much, I was going crazy trying to find something that was nothing lol.
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02-20-2011, 03:43 PM
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RE: 1993 Olds Cutlass Supreme 3100 W/ 4t60e Fwd Automatic, Central U.S.
Thanks for the update. If you can, please let us know how everything works after a couple of test drives.

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02-22-2011, 10:36 PM
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RE: 1993 Olds Cutlass Supreme 3100 W/ 4t60e Fwd Automatic, Central U.S.
(02-20-2011 03:43 PM)Garner Wrote:  Thanks for the update. If you can, please let us know how everything works after a couple of test drives.

I have a part left over, lol, it's a part that looks like a bracket and bolt that hold down a distributor, but I have coil packs, would anybody know where it belongs, I sure can't figure it out, and my dad nor my brother know either, we all said the same thing, " it looks like it holds a distributor down. Any ideas?
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02-22-2011, 10:43 PM
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RE: 1993 Olds Cutlass Supreme 3100 W/ 4t60e Fwd Automatic, Central U.S.
Just a wild guess but on some engines there's a plug in the hole where earlier versions had a distributor. Perhaps that's what is supposed to hold the plug in? It would be near where the engine meets the trany between the heads.
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02-23-2011, 12:20 AM
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RE: 1993 Olds Cutlass Supreme 3100 W/ 4t60e Fwd Automatic, Central U.S.
(02-22-2011 10:43 PM)Rupe Wrote:  Just a wild guess but on some engines there's a plug in the hole where earlier versions had a distributor. Perhaps that's what is supposed to hold the plug in? It would be near where the engine meets the trany between the heads.

Thanks! I'll take a look and see.
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02-23-2011, 12:27 AM (This post was last modified: 02-23-2011 12:28 AM by Rupe.)
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RE: 1993 Olds Cutlass Supreme 3100 W/ 4t60e Fwd Automatic, Central U.S.
Oh, that "plug" is the oil pump drive from the cam...or what was once a cam. They used a dummy shaft in later years after they went to OHC but still needed to run the oil pump. If you were to pull it out it would look like the bottom half of an old distributor with the gear and hex hole to the pump.
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02-25-2011, 03:42 AM
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RE: 1993 Olds Cutlass Supreme 3100 W/ 4t60e Fwd Automatic, Central U.S.
(02-23-2011 12:27 AM)Rupe Wrote:  Oh, that "plug" is the oil pump drive from the cam...or what was once a cam. They used a dummy shaft in later years after they went to OHC but still needed to run the oil pump. If you were to pull it out it would look like the bottom half of an old distributor with the gear and hex hole to the pump.

Thank you soooooo much you were right on, that's exactly where the clamp went, but now I have a new problem, I took it for a spin about four or five blocks, and when I backed it into the drive I found smoke coming from roughly (I think) around where the bell housing meets the motor, there's no leaks and the transmission shifts perfectly and smoothly, but I'm not sure about the smoke that rolled out from under the hood on the drivers side, it seemed to stop smoking as soon as the engine cooled off. Any thoughts on this?
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