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2001 Pontiac Grand Am
01-31-2014, 07:37 PM (This post was last modified: 02-01-2014 11:13 AM by Garner.)
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2001 Pontiac Grand Am
I have a 2004 Pontiac Grand Am, water is leaking from something under the engine, I've felt around it as much as I possibly could, and whatever it is has oil on it. I can't see the source of the leak but I see the dripping and followed it with my hand and what I felt had oil on it. Also if I'm driving for about 20-25 min or more, when the gas pedal is press it makes a constant clicking sound and when the breaks are presses the battery dies. The car is still turned on but the battery light comes on and it dies...
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01-31-2014, 08:31 PM
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RE: 2004 Pontiac Grand Am
Is it plain "water" that you see or is it antifreeze? If it's plain water it is probably coming from the A/C drip tube.

As to where you followed it to with your hand, it would help if knew a little more of a location. Right hand side, left, front, rear? Near the radiator, top, bottom? Lots of things have oil on them on an engine so that really doesn't narrow it down much.

The clicking noise could be a lot of things but combined with the stalling I'm thinking maybe an arching spark plug wire?

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01-31-2014, 08:37 PM
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RE: 2004 Pontiac Grand Am
Yes it's plain water, and the drip which is dripping quite fast, enough to empty it out within 3 min. Its on the passenger side, the rear of the engine and a little under it I believe. It's difficult to see and I can't jack the car up due to weather issues at the moment.
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01-31-2014, 10:25 PM
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RE: 2004 Pontiac Grand Am
First clue to a leak would be to ask if you have to add any fluids under the hood. Antifreeze will feel slippery like oil but will rinse off with water. Washer solvent usually feels cold because it's formulated to evaporate quickly. Obviously engine oil, PS fluid, or ATF will feel like oil but depending on where its leaking from you may not be able to tell the color easily. IOW, it may all look dark even though PS and ATF are generally redish in color.

As Garner mentioned, it may very well be condensate from the AC unit because that will run in the winter with the defroster..... BUT.... it might also be a big chunk of ice melting from inside the cowl area just below the windshield. That's pretty common when we get a warm spell this time of year and may come from either side depending on where the ice has formed.
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02-01-2014, 03:22 AM
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RE: 2004 Pontiac Grand Am
I was mistaken my car is an 01', and when I start the car and turn it off, key out and all it makes a buzzing noise and when I put water in it it stops?
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02-01-2014, 09:05 AM
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RE: 2004 Pontiac Grand Am
I apologize I was wrong about the year and I tried to reword and be a little more descriptive, I'm trying. Thank you all for your help.

I have a 2001 Pontiac Grand Am, 4cl. 2.4l. I don't know where much is under the hood or what it is called. It's been leaking water for a while, but recently it's draining fast. It drains out just as fast as I'm pouring it in. I can't afford much at the moment, so it's plain water I've been using. I looked today and on the passenger side under the hood, under the engine in the back I believe. I can see water coming out, I tried to feel with my hand where it went to. Wherever it's coming from has some sort of oil on it. Like I said I don't know what anything is called or where it's located. My father passed away a few days ago and he is the only one who knew anything about cars, so now I need to try and find all the help I can.

Also if I drive for 25-30 min max. as the gas pedal is being pressed it makes a clicking/cranking(?) noise and it dies/shuts off. I can steer the car(it's very hard because the engine dies)the battery light comes on, etc. When I get it stopped and try to turn it back on, it won't start, if it sits for about 15 min it will start.
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02-01-2014, 11:09 AM
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RE: 2004 Pontiac Grand Am
First of all I would like to say that I am sorry to hear of your loss of your Father.

OK, now I understand things a little better. So lets start with the battery light. I would say that it is just coming on because the engine stalled out. That is the normal thing that should happen when the engine stalls. So take that one off the list for now.

Now that you have explained the “Water” situation things may have gotten worse. You are putting Water in the Radiator &/or the overflow tank? Around here it is winter. I don’t know where you are or what the temperatures are there, but if it’s below freezing, you could have bigger problems than I originally thought. You mentioned not being able to jack it up because of the weather. Snow & Cold??? For now though I will assume that it’s a warm enough climate that the water isn’t freezing. That, the clicking noise, and the area that you said that the water is coming from all kind of points to the water pump being bad.

It really sounds like you need to take it to a mechanic and have them look at it for you. Most will give you a free estimate. Get the estimate, write down what they tell you is wrong, and tell us what they told you. I’m thinking that this is your best option. If you don’t know what you are looking at under there a water pump job would be really difficult to pull off. If something froze and broke you could even be looking at replacing the engine. If you take it to the garage, DON’T tell them any of this! Let THEM tell you what they find.

Please get back to us.

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02-01-2014, 11:30 AM
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RE: 2001 Pontiac Grand Am
Would agree with Garner. Only tell them it's leaking and you have been putting water in.

Now for another possibility on that noise when you press the gas pedal.... something called engine ping or knocking due to over heating. Being too hot is probably why is stalls out and doesn't start for 15 minutes. IOW, there me be more damage than meets the eye but let a professional diagnose it. They should know what questions to ask.
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02-01-2014, 01:30 PM (This post was last modified: 02-01-2014 01:40 PM by MissOwlEyes24.)
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RE: 2001 Pontiac Grand Am
I cant jack it up because it did just snow and the ground is too soft. I went and looked this morning and I check the dip stick for the oil, I can smell gas in it? What would cause it. I live in attalla Alabama. I cant really move the car to have it taken to a mechanic. We live about 20 min away from anything if not further, and im scared to drive it the way it is. And if I mentioned it or not, my mind is so jumbled with thoughts im trying to keep my head straight, I really dont have a dollar to my name at the moment. I feel trapped... Thank you all for your help.

Yes I'm putting the water in the radiator and overflow. When the engine is off the alternator makes a loud shrill humming noise, even if the motor is completely cold. It stops if I put water in, if I don't put water in it, it stops after about 5 min.
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02-01-2014, 02:32 PM
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RE: 2001 Pontiac Grand Am
Sounds like it's time to ask local friends for favors and see if there might be someone closer who can have a look at things or loan you a car for a few days so you can get out to do the leg work. At minimum you will need a ride home if you can make it to a shop for an opinion and a repair.

Just a passing thought.... if the weather isn't too bad maybe you can bring along extra jugs of water then travel to a shop in 5-10 minute segments, allow colling time, then refill with water, and go a few more minutes? Have someone follow you to make sure you are not stranded and they can give you a ride home.

Let us know how you make out.
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